I am looking for a good resource to persuade a client to stop using
Mac OS X, and start using Acrobat for their PDF creation.
I found this on the Adobe Web site:

"PDF files created by the Quartz imaging model in Mac OS X do not use
Adobe PDF creation technology. PDF files created by using the Preview
button or the Save As PDF button in the Mac OS X print interface will
be created by the Apple operating system. Apple PDF creation does not
provide any options for optimization of the PDF documents and Apple
PDF does not provide any PostScript to PDF conversion method. As a
result, PDF files created from Mac OS X will be larger than Adobe PDF
files, and may have challenges in searchability, accessibility, and
professional print production workflows."

But I need more detail. I know Dov Isaacs has spoken of these issues
previously, but can find none of his emails.
Anyone help?
Thanks
John



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I'd say that it depends on your client's needs. Does he/she need
"searchability, accessibility, and professional print production workflows,"
or is the actual usage of these PDFs low-end?

We use CS3 to create PDFs for client projects, of course, and for other
professional purposes. However, when I print a Web-based account statement
or receipt to PDF for basic, internal use, I use Apple's PDF creation. It's
convenient and it meets the need.

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From: John Feld <editor@pcgraphicsreport.com>
Reply-To: Acrobat Talk <acrobat@lists.lassosoft.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:11:09 -0700
To: Acrobat Talk <acrobat@lists.lassosoft.com>
Subject: Adobe vs. Apple PDF

I am looking for a good resource to persuade a client to stop using
Mac OS X, and start using Acrobat for their PDF creation.
I found this on the Adobe Web site:

"PDF files created by the Quartz imaging model in Mac OS X do not use
Adobe PDF creation technology. PDF files created by using the Preview
button or the Save As PDF button in the Mac OS X print interface will
be created by the Apple operating system. Apple PDF creation does not
provide any options for optimization of the PDF documents and Apple
PDF does not provide any PostScript to PDF conversion method. As a
result, PDF files created from Mac OS X will be larger than Adobe PDF
files, and may have challenges in searchability, accessibility, and
professional print production workflows."



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Dear John,

Perhaps these overviews are of any help. Could not find the resource
anymore, but I use these overviews in Acrobat trainings. It gives a good
view on what is (not) supported.

apple-unsupported.jpg
<http://www.doesum.nl/downloads/algemeen/grafisch/dtp/handleidingen/apple-un
supported.jpg>
applePDF02.jpg
<http://www.doesum.nl/downloads/algemeen/grafisch/dtp/handleidingen/applePDF
02.jpg>


Met vriendelijke groet,

Yuri van Doesum
DOESUM software + support
www.doesum.nl | Get it. Use it.

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Van: Acrobat Talk [mailto:acrobat@lists.lassosoft.com
<mailto:acrobat@lists.lassosoft.com> ] Namens John Feld
Verzonden: vrijdag 19 september 2008 7:11
Aan: Acrobat Talk
Onderwerp: Adobe vs. Apple PDF

I am looking for a good resource to persuade a client to stop using
Mac OS X, and start using Acrobat for their PDF creation.
I found this on the Adobe Web site:

"PDF files created by the Quartz imaging model in Mac OS X do not use
Adobe PDF creation technology. PDF files created by using the Preview
button or the Save As PDF button in the Mac OS X print interface will
be created by the Apple operating system. Apple PDF creation does not
provide any options for optimization of the PDF documents and Apple
PDF does not provide any PostScript to PDF conversion method. As a
result, PDF files created from Mac OS X will be larger than Adobe PDF
files, and may have challenges in searchability, accessibility, and
professional print production workflows."

But I need more detail. I know Dov Isaacs has spoken of these issues
previously, but can find none of his emails.
Anyone help?
Thanks
John



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John, concerning more arguments you might find some at different tools than
Acrobat, too f.i.:

http://www.verypdf.com/pdfinfoeditor/pdf-shrink.html

- thomas


Am 19.09.2008 18:31 Uhr schrieb "Yuri van Doesum" unter <pdfzone@y2u.nl>:

> Dear John,
>
> Perhaps these overviews are of any help. Could not find the resource
> anymore, but I use these overviews in Acrobat trainings. It gives a good
> view on what is (not) supported.
>
> apple-unsupported.jpg
> <http://www.doesum.nl/downloads/algemeen/grafisch/dtp/handleidingen/apple-un
> supported.jpg>
> applePDF02.jpg
> <http://www.doesum.nl/downloads/algemeen/grafisch/dtp/handleidingen/applePDF
> 02.jpg>
>
>
> Met vriendelijke groet,
>
> Yuri van Doesum
> DOESUM software + support
> www.doesum.nl | Get it. Use it.
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Acrobat Talk [mailto:acrobat@lists.lassosoft.com
> <mailto:acrobat@lists.lassosoft.com> ] Namens John Feld
> Verzonden: vrijdag 19 september 2008 7:11
> Aan: Acrobat Talk
> Onderwerp: Adobe vs. Apple PDF
>
> I am looking for a good resource to persuade a client to stop using
> Mac OS X, and start using Acrobat for their PDF creation.
> I found this on the Adobe Web site:
>
> "PDF files created by the Quartz imaging model in Mac OS X do not use
> Adobe PDF creation technology. PDF files created by using the Preview
> button or the Save As PDF button in the Mac OS X print interface will
> be created by the Apple operating system. Apple PDF creation does not
> provide any options for optimization of the PDF documents and Apple
> PDF does not provide any PostScript to PDF conversion method. As a
> result, PDF files created from Mac OS X will be larger than Adobe PDF
> files, and may have challenges in searchability, accessibility, and
> professional print production workflows."
>
> But I need more detail. I know Dov Isaacs has spoken of these issues
> previously, but can find none of his emails.
> Anyone help?
> Thanks
> John
>
>
>
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On Sep 18, 2008, at 10:11 PM, John Feld wrote:
> I am looking for a good resource to persuade a client to stop using
> Mac OS X, and start using Acrobat for their PDF creation.


What is the purpose of the PDF?
It may help to make the case that they should not be used for - - - -
because - - - -.

Mark


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Yuri - you do realize that those JPEGs you posted are produced from
material on the Adobe website, right?? Could you please remove them
and simply link folks over to the originals at <http://blogs.adobe.com/loridefurio/2007/09/supported_pdf_f_1.html
>.

Leonard


On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Yuri van Doesum wrote:

> Dear John,
>
> Perhaps these overviews are of any help. Could not find the resource
> anymore, but I use these overviews in Acrobat trainings. It gives a
> good
> view on what is (not) supported.
>
> apple-unsupported.jpg
> <http://www.doesum.nl/downloads/algemeen/grafisch/dtp/handleidingen/apple-un
> supported.jpg>
> applePDF02.jpg
> <http://www.doesum.nl/downloads/algemeen/grafisch/dtp/handleidingen/applePDF
> 02.jpg>
>
>
> Met vriendelijke groet,
>
> Yuri van Doesum
> DOESUM software + support
> www.doesum.nl | Get it. Use it.
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Acrobat Talk [mailto:acrobat@lists.lassosoft.com
> <mailto:acrobat@lists.lassosoft.com> ] Namens John Feld
> Verzonden: vrijdag 19 september 2008 7:11
> Aan: Acrobat Talk
> Onderwerp: Adobe vs. Apple PDF
>
> I am looking for a good resource to persuade a client to stop using
> Mac OS X, and start using Acrobat for their PDF creation.
> I found this on the Adobe Web site:
>
> "PDF files created by the Quartz imaging model in Mac OS X do not use
> Adobe PDF creation technology. PDF files created by using the Preview
> button or the Save As PDF button in the Mac OS X print interface will
> be created by the Apple operating system. Apple PDF creation does not
> provide any options for optimization of the PDF documents and Apple
> PDF does not provide any PostScript to PDF conversion method. As a
> result, PDF files created from Mac OS X will be larger than Adobe PDF
> files, and may have challenges in searchability, accessibility, and
> professional print production workflows."
>
> But I need more detail. I know Dov Isaacs has spoken of these issues
> previously, but can find none of his emails.
> Anyone help?
> Thanks
> John
>
>
>
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