Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder Get timing for creating objects
Dec 04, 2011; 00:00
Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder
Get timing for creating objects
How do I get the timing for creation of an object in Knop?
It appears to be built in when one uses -trace when creating the object, but I'm not sure how to write code to display it.
--steve
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Dec 05
Johan Solve Re: Get timing for creating objects
Dec 05, 2011; 00:00
Johan Solve
Re: Get timing for creating objects
anytype -> tagtime after creating the instance (i.e. after calling oncreate)=2E
define_tag: 'tagtime', -description 'Returns the time it took to execute the last executed member tag for a type instance.',
At 23.03 -0800 2011-12-04, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote: >How do I get the timing for creation of an object in Knop? > >It appears to be built in when one uses -trace when creating the object, but I'm not sure how to write code to display it. > >--steve > >-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- >Steve Piercy Web Site Builder >Soquel, CA ><web@StevePiercy.com> <http://www.StevePiercy.com/> > > >-- >############################################################# >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >the mailing list <knop@lists.montania.se>. >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <knop-off@lists.montania.se> >Send administrative queries to <knop-request@lists.montania.se> >List archive http://lasso.2283332.n4.nabble.com/Knop-Framework-Discussion-f3157831.html >Project homepage http://montania.se/projects/knop/ >Google Code has the latest downloads at http://code.google.com/p/knop/
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Dec 05
Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder Re: Get timing for creating objects
Dec 05, 2011; 00:00
Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder
Re: Get timing for creating objects
OK, that's what I thought, but I was getting really tiny numbers, like 5 for creating a fairly large navigation object. Does it only reflect the time it takes to create the object, not insert all the items?
I found a workaround with this: http://www.tagswap.net/timer
--steve
On 12/5/11 at 9:00 AM, inbox_js@solve.se (Johan Solve) pronounced:
>anytype -> tagtime after creating the instance (i.e. after calling oncreate). > > >define_tag: 'tagtime', -description 'Returns the time it took >to execute the last executed member tag for a type instance.', > > > >At 23.03 -0800 2011-12-04, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote: >>How do I get the timing for creation of an object in Knop? >> >>It appears to be built in when one uses -trace when creating the object, but I'm not >sure how to write code to display it. >> >>--steve >> >>-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- >>Steve Piercy Web Site Builder >>Soquel, CA >><web@StevePiercy.com> <http://www.StevePiercy.com/> >> >> >>-- >>############################################################# >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>the mailing list <knop@lists.montania.se>. >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <knop-off@lists.montania.se> >>Send administrative queries to <knop-request@lists.montania.se> >>List archive >http://lasso.2283332.n4.nabble.com/Knop-Framework-Discussion-f3157831.html >>Project homepage http://montania.se/projects/knop/ >>Google Code has the latest downloads at http://code.google.com/p/knop/ > > >-- >Johan S=C3=B6lve [FSA Member, Lasso Partner] >Web Application/Lasso/FileMaker Developer >MONTANIA SOFTWARE & SOLUTIONS >http://www.montania.se mailto:joh-n@montania.se >(spam-safe email address, replace '-' with 'a') >
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Dec 05
Johan Solve Re: Get timing for creating objects
Dec 05, 2011; 00:00
Johan Solve
Re: Get timing for creating objects
You'll have to time it all yourself since tagtime only times each individual member tag call, which is not relevant for creating an entire nav object.
I recommend L-debug too. Lasso ties into L-debug (at least partially). Include a modified L-Debug renamed to knop_debug.
At 00.54 -0800 2011-12-05, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote: >OK, that's what I thought, but I was getting really tiny numbers, like 5 for creating a fairly large navigation object. Does it only reflect the time it takes to create the object, not insert all the items? > >I found a workaround with this: >http://www.tagswap.net/timer > >--steve > > >On 12/5/11 at 9:00 AM, inbox_js@solve.se (Johan Solve) pronounced: > >>anytype -> tagtime after creating the instance (i.e. after calling oncreate). >> >> >>define_tag: 'tagtime', -description 'Returns the time it took to execute the last executed member tag for a type instance.', >> >> >> >>At 23.03 -0800 2011-12-04, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote: >>>How do I get the timing for creation of an object in Knop? >>> >>>It appears to be built in when one uses -trace when creating the object, but I'm not >>sure how to write code to display it. >>> >>>--steve >>> >>>-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- >>>Steve Piercy Web Site Builder >>>Soquel, CA >>><web@StevePiercy.com> <http://www.StevePiercy.com/> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>############################################################# >>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>the mailing list <knop@lists.montania.se>. >>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <knop-off@lists.montania.se> >>>Send administrative queries to <knop-request@lists.montania.se> >>>List archive >>http://lasso.2283332.n4.nabble.com/Knop-Framework-Discussion-f3157831.html >>>Project homepage http://montania.se/projects/knop/ >>>Google Code has the latest downloads at http://code.google.com/p/knop/ >> >> >>-- >>Johan S=F6lve [FSA Member, Lasso Partner] >>Web Application/Lasso/FileMaker Developer >>MONTANIA SOFTWARE & SOLUTIONS >>http://www.montania.se mailto:joh-n@montania.se >>(spam-safe email address, replace '-' with 'a') >> > >-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- >Steve Piercy Web Site Builder >Soquel, CA ><web@StevePiercy.com> <http://www.StevePiercy.com/> > > >-- >############################################################# >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >the mailing list <knop@lists.montania.se>. >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <knop-off@lists.montania.se> >Send administrative queries to <knop-request@lists.montania.se> >List archive http://lasso.2283332.n4.nabble.com/Knop-Framework-Discussion-f3157831.html >Project homepage http://montania.se/projects/knop/ >Google Code has the latest downloads at http://code.google.com/p/knop/
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Dec 19
Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder Re: Get timing for creating objects
Dec 19, 2011; 00:00
Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder
Re: Get timing for creating objects
Dec 20
Johan Solve Re: Get timing for creating objects
Dec 20, 2011; 00:00
Johan Solve
Re: Get timing for creating objects
Knop calls knop_debug internally. If you haven't loaded "the real" debug.ctyp renamed into knop_debug it's just calling an empty dummy placeholder ctype that is defined in util.inc.
By namespacing the debug ctype into the knop_ namespace and loading in on your page it will override the empty placehodler knop_debug ctype and you will find that some of the Knop types will log nicely and structured straight into L-Debug. See it as a Knop plugin.
Here's a screenshot back to you: http://cl.ly/1h2T000Z3i0G3u2o0o3l
At 05.35 -0800 2011-12-19, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote: >Regarding L-Debug and Knop, why would you rename debug.ctyp to knop_debug.ctyp? It seems to work without renaming it for a Knop site, at least I get the same results for both Jason's timer tag and debug->timer. > >Or is there something more useful I am missing? > >When I do this: > > debug->activate; > ... create knop_nav object instance... > debug($nav); > >I see a bunch of maps in the L-Debug output, one for each node of $nav. It is not styled, but I assume that is the nature of L-Debug and the knop custom type? Maybe you have a screenshot of how it should look? Here, I'll show you mine... > >--steve > > >On 12/5/11 at 2:57 PM, inbox_js@solve.se (Johan Solve) pronounced: > >>You'll have to time it all yourself since tagtime only times each individual member tag call, which is not relevant for creating an entire nav object. >> >>I recommend L-debug too. Lasso ties into L-debug (at least partially). Include a modified L-Debug renamed to knop_debug. >> >> >>At 00.54 -0800 2011-12-05, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote: >>>OK, that's what I thought, but I was getting really tiny numbers, like 5 for creating a >>fairly large navigation object. Does it only reflect the time it takes to create the object, not insert all the items? >>> >>>I found a workaround with this: >>>http://www.tagswap.net/timer >>> >>>--steve >>> >>> >>>On 12/5/11 at 9:00 AM, inbox_js@solve.se (Johan Solve) pronounced: >>> >>>>anytype -> tagtime after creating the instance (i.e. after calling oncreate). >>>> >>>> >>>>define_tag: 'tagtime', -description 'Returns the time it took to execute the last >>executed member tag for a type instance.', >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>At 23.03 -0800 2011-12-04, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote: >>>>>How do I get the timing for creation of an object in Knop? >>>>> >>>>>It appears to be built in when one uses -trace when creating the object, but I'm not >>>>sure how to write code to display it. >>>>> >>>>>--steve >>>>> >>>>>-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- >>>>>Steve Piercy Web Site Builder >>>>>Soquel, CA >>>>><web@StevePiercy.com> <http://www.StevePiercy.com/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>############################################################# >>>>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>the mailing list <knop@lists.montania.se>. >>>>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <knop-off@lists.montania.se> >>>>>Send administrative queries to <knop-request@lists.montania.se> >>>>>List archive >>>>http://lasso.2283332.n4.nabble.com/Knop-Framework-Discussion-f3157831.html >>>>>Project homepage http://montania.se/projects/knop/ >>>>>Google Code has the latest downloads at http://code.google.com/p/knop/ >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Johan S=F6lve [FSA Member, Lasso Partner] >>>>Web Application/Lasso/FileMaker Developer >>>>MONTANIA SOFTWARE & SOLUTIONS >>>>http://www.montania.se mailto:joh-n@montania.se >>>>(spam-safe email address, replace '-' with 'a') >>>> >>> >>>-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- >>>Steve Piercy Web Site Builder >>>Soquel, CA >>><web@StevePiercy.com> <http://www.StevePiercy.com/> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>############################################################# >>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>the mailing list <knop@lists.montania.se>. >>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <knop-off@lists.montania.se> >>>Send administrative queries to <knop-request@lists.montania.se> >>>List archive http://lasso.2283332.n4.nabble.com/Knop-Framework-Discussion-f3157831.html >>>Project homepage http://montania.se/projects/knop/ >>>Google Code has the latest downloads at http://code.google.com/p/knop/ >> >> >>-- >>Johan S=F6lve [FSA Member, Lasso Partner] >>Web Application/Lasso/FileMaker Developer >>MONTANIA SOFTWARE & SOLUTIONS >>http://www.montania.se mailto:joh-n@montania.se >>(spam-safe email address, replace '-' with 'a') >> > >-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- >Steve Piercy Web Site Builder >Soquel, CA ><web@StevePiercy.com> <http://www.StevePiercy.com/> > >Attachment converted: MacBook Pro:l-debug_knop.png (PNGf/prvw) (040D6DAF) >-- >############################################################# >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >the mailing list <knop@lists.montania.se>. >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <knop-off@lists.montania.se> >Send administrative queries to <knop-request@lists.montania.se> >List archive http://lasso.2283332.n4.nabble.com/Knop-Framework-Discussion-f3157831.html >Project homepage http://montania.se/projects/knop/ >Google Code has the latest downloads at http://code.google.com/p/knop/
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Dec 20
Johan Solve Re: Get timing for creating objects
Dec 20, 2011; 00:00
Johan Solve
Re: Get timing for creating objects
Oh, did you rename the actual file? I meant rename the custom type. The file can be named whatever you want.
At 05.35 -0800 2011-12-19, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote: >Regarding L-Debug and Knop, why would you rename debug.ctyp to knop_debug.ctyp? It seems to work without renaming it for a Knop site, at least I get the same results for both Jason's timer tag and debug->timer. > >Or is there something more useful I am missing? > >When I do this: > > debug->activate; > ... create knop_nav object instance... > debug($nav); > >I see a bunch of maps in the L-Debug output, one for each node of $nav. It is not styled, but I assume that is the nature of L-Debug and the knop custom type? Maybe you have a screenshot of how it should look? Here, I'll show you mine... > >--steve > > >On 12/5/11 at 2:57 PM, inbox_js@solve.se (Johan Solve) pronounced: > >>You'll have to time it all yourself since tagtime only times each individual member tag call, which is not relevant for creating an entire nav object. >> >>I recommend L-debug too. Lasso ties into L-debug (at least partially). Include a modified L-Debug renamed to knop_debug. >> >> >>At 00.54 -0800 2011-12-05, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote: >>>OK, that's what I thought, but I was getting really tiny numbers, like 5 for creating a >>fairly large navigation object. Does it only reflect the time it takes to create the object, not insert all the items? >>> >>>I found a workaround with this: >>>http://www.tagswap.net/timer >>> >>>--steve >>> >>> >>>On 12/5/11 at 9:00 AM, inbox_js@solve.se (Johan Solve) pronounced: >>> >>>>anytype -> tagtime after creating the instance (i.e. after calling oncreate). >>>> >>>> >>>>define_tag: 'tagtime', -description 'Returns the time it took to execute the last >>executed member tag for a type instance.', >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>At 23.03 -0800 2011-12-04, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote: >>>>>How do I get the timing for creation of an object in Knop? >>>>> >>>>>It appears to be built in when one uses -trace when creating the object, but I'm not >>>>sure how to write code to display it. >>>>> >>>>>--steve >>>>> >>>>>-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- >>>>>Steve Piercy Web Site Builder >>>>>Soquel, CA >>>>><web@StevePiercy.com> <http://www.StevePiercy.com/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>############################################################# >>>>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>the mailing list <knop@lists.montania.se>. >>>>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <knop-off@lists.montania.se> >>>>>Send administrative queries to <knop-request@lists.montania.se> >>>>>List archive >>>>http://lasso.2283332.n4.nabble.com/Knop-Framework-Discussion-f3157831.html >>>>>Project homepage http://montania.se/projects/knop/ >>>>>Google Code has the latest downloads at http://code.google.com/p/knop/ >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Johan S=F6lve [FSA Member, Lasso Partner] >>>>Web Application/Lasso/FileMaker Developer >>>>MONTANIA SOFTWARE & SOLUTIONS >>>>http://www.montania.se mailto:joh-n@montania.se >>>>(spam-safe email address, replace '-' with 'a') >>>> >>> >>>-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- >>>Steve Piercy Web Site Builder >>>Soquel, CA >>><web@StevePiercy.com> <http://www.StevePiercy.com/> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>############################################################# >>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>the mailing list <knop@lists.montania.se>. >>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <knop-off@lists.montania.se> >>>Send administrative queries to <knop-request@lists.montania.se> >>>List archive http://lasso.2283332.n4.nabble.com/Knop-Framework-Discussion-f3157831.html >>>Project homepage http://montania.se/projects/knop/ >>>Google Code has the latest downloads at http://code.google.com/p/knop/ >> >> >>-- >>Johan S=F6lve [FSA Member, Lasso Partner] >>Web Application/Lasso/FileMaker Developer >>MONTANIA SOFTWARE & SOLUTIONS >>http://www.montania.se mailto:joh-n@montania.se >>(spam-safe email address, replace '-' with 'a') >> > >-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- >Steve Piercy Web Site Builder >Soquel, CA ><web@StevePiercy.com> <http://www.StevePiercy.com/> > >Attachment converted: MacBook Pro:l-debug_knop.png (PNGf/prvw) (040D6DAF) >-- >############################################################# >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >the mailing list <knop@lists.montania.se>. >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <knop-off@lists.montania.se> >Send administrative queries to <knop-request@lists.montania.se> >List archive http://lasso.2283332.n4.nabble.com/Knop-Framework-Discussion-f3157831.html >Project homepage http://montania.se/projects/knop/ >Google Code has the latest downloads at http://code.google.com/p/knop/
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Dec 20
Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder Re: Get timing for creating objects
Dec 20, 2011; 00:00
Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder
Re: Get timing for creating objects
Ah, OK. Now I get it. That is so much better.
=46or the archives, I inserted a line (shown below), put debug.ctyp in the site Startup folder, and restarted the site.
define_type:'Debug','Array',-prototype,-priority 'replace', -namespace 'knop_', // insert this line -description '
Then knop_debug->activate; gets it started.
I don't use debug's -js and -css parameters since there are good-enough default values defined in the type.
--steve
On 12/20/11 at 12:34 AM, inbox_js@solve.se (Johan Solve) pronounced:
>Knop calls knop_debug internally. If you haven't loaded "the >real" debug.ctyp renamed into knop_debug it's just calling an >empty dummy placeholder ctype that is defined in util.inc. > >By namespacing the debug ctype into the knop_ namespace and >loading in on your page it will override the empty placehodler >knop_debug ctype and you will find that some of the Knop types >will log nicely and structured straight into L-Debug. See it as >a Knop plugin. > >if($debug); >library('/L-Debug/debug.inc'); >knop_debug(-js '/l-debug/debug.js', -css '/l-debug/debug.css') -> activate; >/if; > > >Here's a screenshot back to you: >http://cl.ly/1h2T000Z3i0G3u2o0o3l > > > >At 05.35 -0800 2011-12-19, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote: >>Regarding L-Debug and Knop, why would you rename debug.ctyp to knop_debug..ctyp? It >seems to work without renaming it for a Knop site, at least I >get the same results for both Jason's timer tag and debug->timer. >> >>Or is there something more useful I am missing? >> >>When I do this: >> >>debug->activate; >>... create knop_nav object instance... >>debug($nav); >> >>I see a bunch of maps in the L-Debug output, one for each node of $nav. It is not >styled, but I assume that is the nature of L-Debug and the knop >custom type? Maybe you have a screenshot of how it should >look? Here, I'll show you mine... >> >>--steve >> >> >>On 12/5/11 at 2:57 PM, inbox_js@solve.se (Johan Solve) pronounced: >> >>>You'll have to time it all yourself since tagtime only times each individual member >tag call, which is not relevant for creating an entire nav object. >>> >>>I recommend L-debug too. Lasso ties into L-debug (at least partially). Include a >modified L-Debug renamed to knop_debug. >>> >>> >>>At 00.54 -0800 2011-12-05, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote: >>>>OK, that's what I thought, but I was getting really tiny numbers, like 5 for >creating a >>>fairly large navigation object. Does it only reflect the time it takes to create >the object, not insert all the items? >>>> >>>>I found a workaround with this: >>>>http://www.tagswap.net/timer >>>> >>>>--steve >>>> >>>> >>>>On 12/5/11 at 9:00 AM, inbox_js@solve.se (Johan Solve) pronounced: >>>> >>>>>anytype -> tagtime after creating the instance (i.e. after calling oncreate). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>define_tag: 'tagtime', -description 'Returns the time it took to execute the last >>>executed member tag for a type instance.', >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>At 23.03 -0800 2011-12-04, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote: >>>>>>How do I get the timing for creation of an object in Knop? >>>>>> >>>>>>It appears to be built in when one uses -trace when creating the object, but I'm >not >>>>>sure how to write code to display it. >>>>>> >>>>>>--steve >>>>>> >>>>>>-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- >>>>>>Steve Piercy Web Site Builder >>>>>>Soquel, CA >>>>>><web@StevePiercy.com> <http://www.StevePiercy.com/> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>############################################################# >>>>>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>the mailing list <knop@lists.montania.se>. >>>>>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <knop-off@lists.montania.se> >>>>>>Send administrative queries to <knop-request@lists.montania.se> >>>>>>List archive >>>>>http://lasso.2283332.n4.nabble.com/Knop-Framework-Discussion-f3157831.html >>>>>>Project homepage http://montania.se/projects/knop/ >>>>>>Google Code has the latest downloads at http://code.google.com/p/knop/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Johan S=C3=B6lve [FSA Member, Lasso Partner] >>>>>Web Application/Lasso/FileMaker Developer >>>>>MONTANIA SOFTWARE & SOLUTIONS >>>>>http://www.montania.se mailto:joh-n@montania.se >>>>>(spam-safe email address, replace '-' with 'a') >>>>> >>>> >>>>-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- >>>>Steve Piercy Web Site Builder >>>>Soquel, CA >>>><web@StevePiercy.com> <http://www.StevePiercy.com/> >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>############################################################# >>>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>the mailing list <knop@lists.montania.se>. >>>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <knop-off@lists.montania.se> >>>>Send administrative queries to <knop-request@lists.montania.se> >>>>List archive >http://lasso.2283332.n4.nabble.com/Knop-Framework-Discussion-f3157831.html >>>>Project homepage http://montania.se/projects/knop/ >>>>Google Code has the latest downloads at http://code.google.com/p/knop/ >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Johan S=C3=B6lve [FSA Member, Lasso Partner] >>>Web Application/Lasso/FileMaker Developer >>>MONTANIA SOFTWARE & SOLUTIONS >>>http://www.montania.se mailto:joh-n@montania.se >>>(spam-safe email address, replace '-' with 'a') >>> >> >>-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- >>Steve Piercy Web Site Builder >>Soquel, CA >><web@StevePiercy.com> <http://www.StevePiercy.com/> >> >>Attachment converted: MacBook Pro:l-debug_knop.png (PNGf/prvw) (040D6DAF) >>-- >>############################################################# >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>the mailing list <knop@lists.montania.se>. >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <knop-off@lists.montania.se> >>Send administrative queries to <knop-request@lists.montania.se> >>List archive >http://lasso.2283332.n4.nabble.com/Knop-Framework-Discussion-f3157831.html >>Project homepage http://montania.se/projects/knop/ >>Google Code has the latest downloads at http://code.google.com/p/knop/ > > >-- >Johan S=C3=B6lve [FSA Member, Lasso Partner] >Web Application/Lasso/FileMaker Developer >MONTANIA SOFTWARE & SOLUTIONS >http://www.montania.se mailto:joh-n@montania.se >(spam-safe email address, replace '-' with 'a') >
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