I don't really understand how I'm supposed to use this.

You say:

"While Sidekick is enabled, Yojimbo will create a webpage for every
included item, and add it to a portable, searchable index page. You
can then place or transfer this collection of pages to any location
you desire, for example: your phone, a computer or laptop which does
not have Yojimbo installed, or an Internet or local web server."

Is there a way to actually put the hierarchy of HTML files on the
iPhone or iPad that I'm unaware of?

I actually cannot get web sharing working on my Mac (I get a 403 on my
machineÂ… I cannot resolve this and not for lack of trying and I'm not
stupid, and no amount of mucking with permissions on Sites or apache
files in /etc/apache2/users will address it), and I'm not convinced
that even if I did get this working that I'd want to use B2MM to
navigate from my iPhone from wherever I am. Are there better
solutions for doing this that I'm missing? I want something portable
that does not require an internet connection to get access to my YJ
files.

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Good morning,

On 2/06/10 at 12:29 PM -0700, Bill <blloyd@gmail.com> wrote:

>Is there a way to actually put the hierarchy of HTML files on the
>iPhone or iPad that I'm unaware of?

My understanding is that SideKick isn't a solution specifically
for iphones; it's a more general solution for using your Yojimbo
library (or a part of it) away from your Mac. There are lots of
ways that can be achieved and SideKick doesn't even attempt to
support them all directly. Instead is serves as a generic solution.

If you have any sort of web serving available to you (eg. maybe
a MobileMe account), then you can upload SideKick to that. On
the iPhone you can use something like AirSharing to copy
SideKick, although I've got problems using SideKick properly
from within AirSharing. (I don't think that's a problem with
SideKick though.)

Basically, anywhere you can store html files (static web site)
will work fine for SideKick. And then just access SideKick
through any web browser.

I'm quite impressed with how the searching works within SideKick
without requiring a server process to handle the searching. I
think the BBSW guys (Steve?) have done a great job of giving us
a way to take our Yojimbo libraries with us.


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> If you have any sort of web serving available to you (eg. maybe a MobileMe account), then you can upload SideKick to that.

Sidekick doesn't work for me on MobileMe. In the Sidekick preferences,
once I choose my iDisk, the Keychain prompt me for authorizing access.
I clicked Always Allow. I then create a Yojimbo folder in the Web >
Sites directory. Nothing appears under Sidekick folder and when I
click Start, I get a message that "An error occurred while starting up
the website exporter: Could not create or locate export folder".

Is it possible to use MobileMe for this feature? Any advice would be
welcomed.

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Good afternoon,

On 2/06/10 at 7:21 PM -0700, flec65 <flec65@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>Is it possible to use MobileMe for this feature? Any advice would be
>welcomed.

I haven't tried it with MobileMe, but what about saving the
SideKick to a local folder and then copying to MobileMe? I think
using iDisk as a regular disk will have strange behaviour since
it's really webDAV and that introduces it's own limitations.

Make sure SideKick works for you locally first, then try it
through MobileMe.


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So once I create a Sidekick export folder, does Yojimbo continually
update this external folder everytime I add or delete items in
Yojimbo?

Jim



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> Good afternoon,
>
> On 2/06/10 at 7:21 PM -0700, flec65 <fle...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >Is it possible to use MobileMe for this feature? Any advice would be
> >welcomed.
>
> I haven't tried it with MobileMe, but what about saving the
> SideKick to a local folder and then copying to MobileMe? I think
> using iDisk as a regular disk will have strange behaviour since
> it's really webDAV and that introduces it's own limitations.
>
> Make sure SideKick works for you locally first, then try it
> through MobileMe.
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I tried exporting via Sidekick to a folder in iDisk/Documents: got an
error. So I exported to a desktop folder then copied to iDisk/
Documents. The export was instant: 1700 items, 10 Mbytes. But the
copy to iDisk... holy cow. It's only 15 % done and estimated 45
minutes to go. And that is just on the local disk. What's with
that? Is that just a "slow iDisk copy" thing when there are lots of
files?

Anxious to access Yojimbo on iPhone and iPad!

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> Good afternoon,
>
> On 2/06/10 at 7:21 PM -0700, flec65 <fle...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >Is it possible to use MobileMe for this feature? Any advice would be
> >welcomed.
>
> I haven't tried it with MobileMe, but what about saving the
> SideKick to a local folder and then copying to MobileMe? I think
> using iDisk as a regular disk will have strange behaviour since
> it's really webDAV and that introduces it's own limitations.
>
> Make sure SideKick works for you locally first, then try it
> through MobileMe.
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On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:13 AM, HeyJP wrote:

> I tried exporting via Sidekick to a folder in iDisk/Documents: got an
> error. So I exported to a desktop folder then copied to iDisk/
> Documents. The export was instant: 1700 items, 10 Mbytes. But the
> copy to iDisk... holy cow. It's only 15 % done and estimated 45
> minutes to go. And that is just on the local disk. What's with
> that? Is that just a "slow iDisk copy" thing when there are lots of
> files?

There is a bug in Yojimbo which prevents you from using your iDisk as a destination. We'll fix it in the next update.

The performance you are seeing is typical for iDisk. That's one of the many reasons I don't use it (and unfortunately, why this bug slipped through testing)

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the short answer to this is, I think, that we all write to Dropbox and get them onto it, and we all use Dropbox

There are technical reasons which boil down to 'dropbox would be better'

it might be that the iDisk initial upload is like the first TM back-up -- but it might not, and I have more faith in dropbox's updating being quicker.


On 3 Jun 2010, at 15:13, HeyJP wrote:

> I tried exporting via Sidekick to a folder in iDisk/Documents: got an
> error. So I exported to a desktop folder then copied to iDisk/
> Documents. The export was instant: 1700 items, 10 Mbytes. But the
> copy to iDisk... holy cow. It's only 15 % done and estimated 45
> minutes to go. And that is just on the local disk. What's with
> that? Is that just a "slow iDisk copy" thing when there are lots of
> files?

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Good morning,

On 3/06/10 at 7:14 AM -0700, HeyJP <jp.pollock@gmail.com> wrote:

>So once I create a Sidekick export folder, does Yojimbo continually
>update this external folder everytime I add or delete items in
>Yojimbo?

I suggest you try it and see. But yes, that's my experience; the
SideKick folder stays current with changes to my Yojimbo
library. I have to manually update SideKick on my web server
though. And an FTP mirror upload makes that simple to do.


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Good morning,

On 3/06/10 at 7:13 AM -0700, HeyJP <jp.pollock@gmail.com> wrote:

>I tried exporting via Sidekick to a folder in iDisk/Documents: got an
>error. So I exported to a desktop folder then copied to iDisk/
>Documents. The export was instant: 1700 items, 10 Mbytes. But the
>copy to iDisk... holy cow. It's only 15 % done and estimated 45
>minutes to go. And that is just on the local disk. What's with
>that? Is that just a "slow iDisk copy" thing when there are lots of
>files?

I believe that's a side-effect of iDisk being webDAV. I doubt
there's much that can be done to improve the performance. But
since I don't use iDisk I don't really know what the limitations are.


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On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Steve Kalkwarf <kalkwarf@barebones.com> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:13 AM, HeyJP wrote:
>
>> I tried exporting via Sidekick to a folder in iDisk/Documents:  got an
>> error.  So I exported to a desktop folder then copied to iDisk/
>> Documents.  The export was instant:  1700 items, 10 Mbytes.  But the
>> copy to iDisk... holy cow.  It's only 15 % done and estimated 45
>> minutes to go.  And that is just on the local disk.  What's with
>> that?  Is that just a "slow iDisk copy" thing when there are lots of
>> files?
>
> There is a bug in Yojimbo which prevents you from using your iDisk as a destination. We'll fix it in the next update.

Is that bug the same reason I can't use a Transmit mounted SFTP
account as a destination?

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On Jun 3, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Derik DeLong wrote:

>> There is a bug in Yojimbo which prevents you from using your iDisk as a destination. We'll fix it in the next update.
>
> Is that bug the same reason I can't use a Transmit mounted SFTP
> account as a destination?

Possibly.

Please contact support@barebones.com, and we can investigate the details.

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Hello all,

iDisk is only slow if you use the finder to do your upload (why Apple?). If you use a FTP client like Panic's Transmit or the free Cyber Duck you will see that WebDAV can be very fast.

On Jun 3, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Charlie Garrison wrote:

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>
> On 3/06/10 at 7:13 AM -0700, HeyJP <jp.pollock@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I tried exporting via Sidekick to a folder in iDisk/Documents: got an
>> error. So I exported to a desktop folder then copied to iDisk/
>> Documents. The export was instant: 1700 items, 10 Mbytes. But the
>> copy to iDisk... holy cow. It's only 15 % done and estimated 45
>> minutes to go. And that is just on the local disk. What's with
>> that? Is that just a "slow iDisk copy" thing when there are lots of
>> files?
>
> I believe that's a side-effect of iDisk being webDAV. I doubt there's much that can be done to improve the performance. But since I don't use iDisk I don't really know what the limitations are.
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I have no problem on the web or on my iPhone finding notes if I use
Dropbox's search box. But otherwise Barebones says: "Putting the
export on Dropbox, and browsing through their web interface does not
work; all the individual items' pages will be unavailable." So it
doesn't work very well unless I'm missing something.

On Jun 3, 10:29 am, Jason Davies <ophioc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> the short answer to this is, I think, that we all write to Dropbox and get them onto it, and we all use Dropbox
>
> There are technical reasons which boil down to 'dropbox would be better'

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On 6 Jun 2010, at 20:19, Jane wrote:

> I have no problem on the web or on my iPhone finding notes if I use
> Dropbox's search box. But otherwise Barebones says: "Putting the
> export on Dropbox, and browsing through their web interface does not
> work; all the individual items' pages will be unavailable." So it
> doesn't work very well unless I'm missing something.

Interesting -- I don't. I just have the index list as the release notes suggest. What kind of document/file are you actualyl getting to work?


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On Jun 7, 2010, at 7:50 AM, Jason Davies wrote:

> On 6 Jun 2010, at 20:19, Jane wrote:
>
>> I have no problem on the web or on my iPhone finding notes if I use
>> Dropbox's search box. But otherwise Barebones says: "Putting the
>> export on Dropbox, and browsing through their web interface does not
>> work; all the individual items' pages will be unavailable." So it
>> doesn't work very well unless I'm missing something.
>
> Interesting -- I don't. I just have the index list as the release notes suggest. What kind of document/file are you actualyl getting to work?



Possibly related (but possibly not) I just did a non-private beta update for 1Password. The release notes in part said this:

> Changes for version 3.2.0.BETA-3 (build #30649)
>
> Published May 19, 2010
>
> This beta build includes a change to correctly detect Dropbox 0.8.x installation.
>
> This build includes an experimental feature that creates a special "sandbox" folder in Dropbox. This folder will be required to sync your data with iPhone and iPad using the Dropbox account. Unlike desktop applications, mobile apps (1Password for iPhone/iPad) using Dropbox API can only access the files inside the sandbox.
>
> The feature is currently hidden in Help > Tools > Enable Dropbox Sync. Currently, it is not for everyone, please use it only if you are comfortable dealing with file system.
>
> Please note that Dropbox syncing in 1Password for iPhone/iPad is still in development and will be available later.
>
> Full Changelog
>
> • ChangedNow correctly detecting Dropbox 0.8 installation.

> Changes for version 3.2.0.BETA-2 (build #30648)
>
> Published May 18, 2010
>
> This beta build includes improvements and bug fixes.
>
> This build also includes an experimental feature that creates a special "sandbox" folder in Dropbox. This folder can be accessed by Mac, Windows and (future versions of) iPhone/iPad applications. The sandbox folder will be required for iPhone and iPad applications because they will be using Dropbox APIs.
>
> The feature is currently hidden in Help > Tools > Enable Dropbox Sync. Currently, it is not for everyone, please use it only if you are comfortable dealing with file system.
>
> Please note that Dropbox syncing in 1Password for iPhone/iPad is still in development and will be available later.
>
> Full Changelog
>
> • NewAdded Help > Tools > Enable Dropbox Sync to create a special sandbox folder for 1Password data.
> • NewIf the default data file cannot be found then 1Password will try to find its data file in Dropbox.
> • New1Password now detects that the data file in Dropbox sandbox folder is newer than the current data file and prompting to switch to the new Dropbox copy on startup.

Currently you can use Dropbox to hold your 1Password keychain and it will work fine on multiple computers. You can't use it for iPhone syncing, though.. For that you have to have your iPhone on the same wireless network as your open copy of 1Password. When you launch 1Password on the iPhone they then sync together.

My (very possibly incorrect) interpretation of this is that Dropbox has an under-development mechanism in their API to deal with a Yojimo-like situation (i.e., files accessed and updated from multiple computers, accessible from iPhone in a read-only manner). Short of an actual native iPhone app this seems to be very close to what I'd want in a portable Yojimbo.

Caution: I only *pretend* to be an actual programmer. (Standard disclaimer.)

Seth


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Sidekick works with MobileMe if you have your iDisk set to 'Sync' in
the MobileMe preferences. This setting means that your iDisk is local
to your Mac and it's the MacOS which takes care of the
synchronisation. I've been using iDisk sync for about 1.5 years now
and it is working pretty well overall.

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